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Examples of prescription medications that contain hydromorphone include Dilaudid and Palladone.

Oh Man.....IS every post dead??!?! SOmeone hit this upppp

Postby dr.funke_024420 » Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:55 pm

what up everyone. pretty new here. saw there was no hydromorph posts going so just throwing a word in. ill ask you guys...

1. What do y'all think of the hydromorphone? What about the route? What mg gets ya going?

Personally, a friend of mine,[SWIM], came across a huuuge amount of these. the 8mg rox 54 403.
The needle isnt really any option and luckily tolerance is good and low. needle is a no go
ive read all the bio's saying like oral is ~30%.
nasal would be almost at like tops ~55%
and obv the slamming route is so easy with the super easy disolvers, no cook from what ive read....

everything i read said ppl wouldnt even feel them when eating them up orally but i def do... maybe
its a low tolerance but what do you guys think? feel free to get this tread going!!! :) :) :)
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Postby mgbigsandco » Sun Apr 25, 2010 11:31 am

Oh yeah you can feel them orally!!! I think it is IVers that always say that!!...Now I will say switching between diff opiates is best...like swim norm has 8mg Hydromorphs and 30mg Ms Contins. now after a month or so....doing like 40mg of Oxycodone gets swim better....then back to dillies....swim does about 32 to 40mg of Dilly oral at a time...sometimes swim will do 32mg of Dilly and 60mg of ms contin.....just depends...swim Never snorts them...plugging them works way way way way better then anything.....swim heard it is as close to IVing as you can get without doing it.....Swim too Would NEVER IV!!!! Swim HATES NEEDLES!!!!

Swim Gets 180 8mg Hydromorphs and 90 30MG Ms Contins a Month......Swim also Likes the Mallies better then the ROX.....and No you cant just shake and shoot anymore...from what Swim hears that was just with the K4 and K8;s back in day...the Mallie and Rox have fliller and binders in them...not alot...as when plugging if you crush 4 8's and put 12cc of Warm...Hot ( hot out of faucet) water in....there will be insolubls in the oral syringe......Hope this helps!!!
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Postby dr.funke_024420 » Sun Apr 25, 2010 11:44 am

Hey mgbigsandco!

Thanks for a reply lol... actually I have the same opiates as well. 8mg hydromorphone dillies and 40mg oxy.

I dont mess around with the needles as well... and taking the dillies nasally is just nasty. they clog up your nose and it just isnt worth it.

Its great to actually get people posting up here, and this is a great addition, thanx!

After a long use of all sorts of substances from psychedelics to hallucinogens to opiates... i gotta say i still have a low tolerance kept for the ops.

A good 16mg to 24mg dilly will get me going well and adding a dash of oxy just adds to the fun. usually around 30-40mg. usually taking the dilly oral and insufflating oxy

The mallies def have an advantage over the roxy, i will agree with ya there. :)


Lemme add one more question in there... what do you guys think of the nausea aspect of the opiates. I very very rarely end up throwing up because i cannot stand it, even to the point of last time i did, i ended up taking a decent break from opiates and ended up lowering my tolerance which def had some positive effects on making the pill case last longer lol
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Postby mgbigsandco » Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:01 pm

I have very very rarely vomited from using opiates...I have NEVER used Herion in its street form....just in the form the FDA says we can ROFL!!!........The only times I have got sick is from Plugging....now it took a long time for me to plug...believe me...I couldnt even think about it...and laughed when I read about it...but I wanted more...I didnt think taking massive ammounts orally was good plus one would go through a script very quickly....I posted on New Intro if you want to find out why how I am on what I am etc....anyhow...I was running low and reading about petentiating etc to stretch till next appt...grapefruit juice tagmet etc...tried...and didnt work...didnt have time to order n try Kratom so I thought about it....found an oral syringe as a turkey baster I just couldnt do lo...( i read of a person using one) anyhow I filed the tip and made it smooth etc...and gave it a try...I got sick so i knew it had to be much stronger then what I used normally...I fixed up about half my norm dose and lubed up lol...and gave it a plunge for lack of better words...I ended up puking but man was I buzzed....anyhow after that I was cautious as I too HATE to Puke!!!

Now I pretty much alaways plug...i too have found that if I plug a lot that switching and taking Oral will buzz me....kinda odd....but I use partial recreational and partial for real pain.....I can not put on socks or tie shoes in morn without taking meds..as I cant bend my leg or back to do so...I actually set my alarm for about 20 min before I need to be up so I can take meds they kick in then I can get up and get ready..

back to Kratom...i ordered 2 OZ of the ground leaf...I cant tell how well it works....do you have any info on Kratom?

my Background illicit is Coke, LSD, Shrooms, weed, Opiates, alcohol, Opium, pretty much anything and everything except herion...I tried Meth 2 or 3 times,...works good...but knowing whats in it....not for me!!!...also tried rush when I was young.....

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Postby Opiokid » Sun May 16, 2010 9:27 am

Glad to see there are some other people on here talking about the D's.
SWIMs DOC is D's no doubt about it. IV Is the only way to go for SWIM.
Has a great rush and is way cheaper compared to oxys. Unfortuantly SWIM have a huge tolerance and needs at least 12mg to feel better and 32-40 mg to get where He wants to be. The only thing Hes been struggling with is the "to cook, or not to cook" issue. sWIM knows the advantages of cold water and not getting the fillers and binders mixed in the shot but He just can't seem to get results without cooking. Anybody else have this problem? He's only tried the cold water method with the 8mg mallies. sWIM would love some feedback on this topic
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Postby mgbigsandco » Mon May 17, 2010 8:05 am

I wishh I had more knowledge for you, but I have never used a point. I do know when I use hot water to plug it disolves better then with cold.!....I have been places where the sinks didnt get hot just luke warm at best and have noticed even though I crush the pills to a fine fine powder there is a lot more stuff in the oral rig, now at home I have super HOT water and I get it to its hottest point where I cant hold my finger under faucet and have much much less stuff in oral rig that I can see, I dont know if that will help you or not. I hope someone more familiar will advise you on this........I hope we all me included and you too opiokid respond to peoples post that is what will grow this site so we can get more answers and such. same with like with this post if you find out on your own through experience or from someone else somewhere else come back here and post it. So in future others will know or may expand onto what you have learned or said.....thanks for posting and hope to hear back.........do you use malli or rox?......I have heard there is a 10mg D out is this true do you know?....I know they have ER D's in Europe but not in states but I have looked around and found info on 10's I have not seen them or heard of anyone getting RX for them but would like to know more
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Postby eukodalic » Tue May 18, 2010 2:20 pm

mgbigsandco wrote:I know they have ER D's in Europe but not in states but I have looked around and found info on 10's I have not seen them or heard of anyone getting RX for them but would like to know more


Right Big- some countries in Europe can get Jurnista, the ER form of HM. I have not heard about a 10 mg. strength for the US market, yet.
Thanks for reviving an older but still interesting thread, Big- I've always been an advocate for hydromorphone in the opioid arena- so clean
with very few post-use metabolites that can stay in your system for a long period, like some other common opio's. Too bad HM loses so much power
orally, huh? and that so many ppl are not fond of the 'point.' I've been scripted the stuff off and on (mostly on) for over 5 years. I use it mostly
for BT pain episodes and try to have an empty stomach. My label allows an 8 every 4 hours- so 6/day- which I generally can stick to. I know about
the other methods and concur with what you guys have said above. I guess most of us here are too young to have gone through the Knoll days
and when HM was actually provided in what guys called "cold shakers." I believe some of the earliest dilaudid formulations were actually
intended for injection use
by the manufacturer, but maybe one of the dilly historians here could confirm that. But the new pills from Mallie,
etc. are definitely not engineered for this method of use.

Still, an awesome opiate in many ways--! :)
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Postby mgbigsandco » Wed May 19, 2010 9:57 am

Just had swims main doc appt yesterday. He is cool, but with all the neg press as of late certainly here in florida (they have been calling it the new crack and even worse legal heroin in newspapers, tv and radio on alomost a 24/7 spin for past month or so around Tampa area also side note 92% of ALL oxycontin RX written in the entire USA come from Florida Doc's!!!) anyhow the doc said I had to have monotherapy and to pick what I wanted. choice of 30!!!! MS Contin 30mg or 120 8mg HM!! No brainer...which makes me believe all this doc is about is lowering swims dose and not helping swim have pain free life and be able to be active father which is sad. Anyways to the point and speaking of Junista...the doc said to swim would you like to try a time release HM!!!!!! having thought and pretty much "known" this was not avail in USA swim was kinda blown back by this! then Doc states yes its a once daily pill at which time swim said I know HM that he gets works and dont want to mess with it. Mainly because of the once daily and not wanting to risk saying yes and getting a once a day 10mg time release HM as Swim is use to doing 6 of the 8mg a day as well.

Swim is now scared that next time the doc will want to lower his dose to 100 or worse and swim is in almost a panic of what to do. Swim also tested "dirty" for oxycodone. Swim tested pos for it the first visit as well and told the doc he had some left over Percs from wife surgery 6 mo ago as well as some left over percs of his own. Doc of course does not remember this at all and now swim thinks doc thinks he is an abuser which couldnt be further from the truth. for those who know swim, swim has had to go to 2 diff docs to get enough meds to live pain free and one doc RX swim 60 of the 15mg Oxycodone IR's a month and this is why swim had to use diff doc as swim was using 3 to 4 30mg MS Contin and 6 a day 8mg HM and was being forced to try to survive on basically 60 IR 15 mg Oxycodone...just not do able!!! so swim found other doc that was giving swim 60 of ms contin and 90 4mg HM then gave swim 120 8mg HM and 30 ms contin....now doc has lowered to 120 8mg HM. This had nothing to do with urine actually doc did all this before urine results were brought in !!!!!

People, pill mills and pill pushers are killing it for legit CP patients and we all need to figure out how to combat this!! The DEA and local police have resources and free media to push their twisted views of pain and pain mngmnt, and we the CP's need a voice!!! Any ideas"????????????

Just a couple days ago....ran on 3 stations....Fox, NBC, and Bay News 9 was a "sting" on pill mills around Tampa they showed undercover footage of inside these places with people packed in like sardines!! people whom brought pillows to sleep while waiting to be seen!! selling pills in the parking lot and inside facillities!!! they have lines for new patients, returning patients, and to get meds!! most clinincs have on site pharmacies!!!! then the parking lot looked like a homless area of LA filled with heroin addicts...people were like tailgating...litterly in the parking lot with Grills cooking dogs, burgers and such at all times of day...selling RX's in lot and lines of 100+ people at 8am waiting for places to open!! it is INSANE!!! then they showed license plates in lot they were all Arkansas, Missouri, Illinois, Kentucky, Virginia, georgia, Alabama.......it is out of control!!!! Swim feels like a crimanal just going and since swim just moved here from St Louis swim is on out of state tags!!! this doesnt look good either....Cops are patroling lots just running plates as well! They interviewed a guy from Virginia he says he comes down hits 5 clinics get 1000 pills it cost him about 5k for trip total with RX visits and gas...he says he goes back sells for up to 50 a pill and profits 30k a month!!! also not good press!!! showed a van from kentucky waiting in lot when clinic opened 7 PEOPLE!!!! Got out and all went in to be seen!!!

CP Patients WE NEED TO WAKE UP, COLLABORATE, UNITE, DEVISE, AND SET FORTH WITH A PLAN TO SPEAK UP BEFORE WE ARE SILENCED!!!!!!
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